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Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

Good morning. (Good morning)

Let's talk about maturation.

How do you want your children to grow up to be? Before you talk about yourself.

There are a lot of kids here but…

Before you talk about what's right and wrong, what's good and bad to children I think that you first have to understand what kind of reality they have to face, their reality, because they'll be in it, not you.

For instance, I could send my children to the nursery here where they glorify Father and they could be in that kind of environment, but once they start to go to public school there is no such a thing.

The Glorification is somewhere else. That's a problem. And they're living in it, not you. So if you think about that reality, because the reality is what you have to deal with to make growth.

You have to learn something from it, know how to control it, manage it, and ultimately transcend to the next level, because there are many levels in which you need to overcome; you need to understand first and overcome so that you can finally say bye-bye to this world and prepare yourself for the next one.

And many times the language is a barrier. The language the parents use to speak to a child who lives in that kind of environment is foreign. You expect them to rise up to your level, but there are times when you need to step down. You need to understand their reality. You have to understand their reality, what they're going through within their reality.

Before you talk about good and bad. To them what's cool and un-cool, what's smart and stupid is more important.

In the end you want to teach your children something and to give them something, but they have to be in a position to receive it, otherwise they'll never get (understand) you.

First, in the beginning time... It comes in cycles (stages) kind of decade stuff. You start with individual self stuff. You're experimenting with yourself; you're trying to learn your boundaries and your limitations. You want to know how much excitement, how much boredom I can take. That's what happens in a child's mind and in a child's reality. That's the only thing that is important to them.

Once they start to go to school and they reach the next decade; they start to go into teenage-hood and cool and un-cool and that kind of stuff, more social rather than individual is important. Why, because they're growing up. They're just beginning to realize how it works in society.

So the fundamental thing that they will learn is try to understand that relationship, but based on the reality that they're living in. So even the language that you choose, the concepts that you use to try to teach them what is right ultimately has to relate to them, not you.

You're still growing too. I know that when you get to father's age you are only going to speak about spirit world. Trust me. (Laughter)

Then comes when they grow up beyond teens and they go to college. They become college students and they start to become more socially active right? They become idealist, a lot of them. If you can become an idealist, that's the time that you're going to turn into one.

Your getting to a greater society, greater relationship. The next decade is going to be more. You are literally going to try to find yourself and define yourself in a certain kind of situation.

What ever profession that you have chosen, that's all that you're going to think about and that's all that every ounce of your energy will be focused on, trying to master that and trying to make a difference and to compete and win.

A lot of times the jargon (of your profession) is important, but the next decade it's not important any more. When you turn forty all those things are not important any more. What's more important is finding a more universal, something that is more universal. Even if it has to be earthly, you want to find something more universal, and you want to expand that social base, connect to more people, not just to your whatever.

That is goes to the next level and you're just going to take it to the next level. You literally want to start to actually see the value in people, and difference, not all the bad, only the good, because that's important to you. Why, because you're preparing yourself for the final departure, because that is the completion of maturation.

More and more it's going to become more and more important to you, that thing, knowing that stuff; nothing else matters. That's how we grow.

Please, when you deal with children, just speak in their language. Once they start to disregard certain things they will rail against our language one way or the other.

When I was young, I was taught certain things, and when you go to school it was completely opposite. You can only take so much, but when it starts to become more and more, and more and more overwhelming you start to disregard it regardless, why, because it's human nature; its self preservation. "I have to take care of myself. That ain't good; there's nothing good here."

You start to react. The thing is unfortunately when that happens; you just might go down the wrong path. That it will take you a long time to recover from. You're pretty much on your own then.

How difficult was it for you to find God? Did you grow up in a religious environment? What if you didn't? It pretty much will be like that. You pretty much have destroyed whatever you had in your mind and you have to build it back up. That's the problem.

So if you can... Success is just one little thing. Even in competition winning is measured in milliseconds right; that determines the first place or the second guy, right? It's that kind of stuff. It's that little effort, a little more that makes a difference. And it's difficult to do that sometimes and if you have to do that all the time obviously it's going to take stuff out of you. You will pay for it. If you have chosen that path then that's your call isn't it?

And how long can I stick to this? I don't know. "How long can you tough it out?" I don't know. The thing is that everybody regardless of whether they're a little kid or people that are preparing to go to spirit world, to the end they have to face that one question. And YOU have to answer it. No one else can do that for you when it comes to you.

Try to understand that God is in zero right? God is in the middle. That's why He's in zero. Father talks about horizontal and vertical and God is in here.

(Hyo-Jin-nim draws the vertical and horizontal lines in the air and points at the intersection point)

How far do you want to expand? That is your life goal; you determine how far you expand. When you expand horizontally you have to match it vertically too. What you deliver based on your horizontal expansion is up to you, because you want perfection right? Aw that's tough. Boy it's tough!

Am I doing this stuff that I expand horizontally for myself or something greater? That's tough. Let's say that you can do that, expand to the level that the world will recognize. But to be perfect you have to match it up vertically right? We understand that because that's the language, the jargon that we use in the church right?

But when it comes to kids, try to understand you have to sink down; you have to go down. You can't expect them to always rise up to your level. Even grown-ups can't. You can't expect them to always do that stuff. How do you expect children to do that stuff all the time? That's crazy!

So you have to have that kind of understanding that sets the standard. It needs to be. YES! Hey it's your child! And it's your life right? And we will grow to the end; it's up to you.

OK.